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		<title>By: Justice Buchanan</title>
		<link>http://justinflood.com/2008/10/is-the-blackberry-storm-an-iphone-killer/comment-page-1/#comment-4857</link>
		<dc:creator>Justice Buchanan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 00:21:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe they thought he was talking to his terrorist friend</description>
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		<title>By: ubiquityman</title>
		<link>http://justinflood.com/2008/10/is-the-blackberry-storm-an-iphone-killer/comment-page-1/#comment-1646</link>
		<dc:creator>ubiquityman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 18:41:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No disagreement that iPhone (Apple) OS is superior on a technical level, but that does not make it a better smartphone if it doesn&#039;t translate into usability. 
It could be Linux based for all I care (I don&#039;t), but I&#039;m concerned about whether the device gets the job done.
They can cram windows onto a smartphone (wait, they did that already, it&#039;s called WindowsMobile) and that doesn&#039;t make it a better smartphone.

iPhone does have slightly better media capability in the area of DRM iTunes which the Blackberrys don&#039;t do.

However, in terms of usability, I would diagree.  The Blackberry is more usable, but usability is a subjective matter, so I doubt we will get agreement on that.

And, like I said if you had to disable all the media features of your iPhone for business, would you still want an iPhone?  I wouldn&#039;t.  If you would, why?

iPhone sales as with other Apple products often do get good receptions at launch.  Jobs is known for guerrilla marketing.  Sure they exceed RIM in the last quarter but barely.  And that&#039;s in a quarter that Apple had a new product with a worldwide launch and RIM had very little.  The same thing is happening for the Storm right now. People are already queuing up and pre-ordering the Storm.  If Apple really can beat RIM in the next two quarters, then I would concede that Apple has a good chance of dominating the consumer market.  (RIM will still control the business market for the foreseeable future.)

On battery life, your iPhone usage is such that you can get by with charging it every day.  Some people use their mobile phones more than you use your iPhone.  With Blackberry&#039;s, the battery life lasts significantly longer, and switching batteries takes just a few seconds.  Critical for mobile warriors.

in general:
The casual consumer, tech minded people and business people buy Blackberrys. 
The casual consumer, tech minded people buy iPhones.  Business people generally do not buy iPhones.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No disagreement that iPhone (Apple) OS is superior on a technical level, but that does not make it a better smartphone if it doesn&#8217;t translate into usability.<br />
It could be Linux based for all I care (I don&#8217;t), but I&#8217;m concerned about whether the device gets the job done.<br />
They can cram windows onto a smartphone (wait, they did that already, it&#8217;s called WindowsMobile) and that doesn&#8217;t make it a better smartphone.</p>
<p>iPhone does have slightly better media capability in the area of DRM iTunes which the Blackberrys don&#8217;t do.</p>
<p>However, in terms of usability, I would diagree.  The Blackberry is more usable, but usability is a subjective matter, so I doubt we will get agreement on that.</p>
<p>And, like I said if you had to disable all the media features of your iPhone for business, would you still want an iPhone?  I wouldn&#8217;t.  If you would, why?</p>
<p>iPhone sales as with other Apple products often do get good receptions at launch.  Jobs is known for guerrilla marketing.  Sure they exceed RIM in the last quarter but barely.  And that&#8217;s in a quarter that Apple had a new product with a worldwide launch and RIM had very little.  The same thing is happening for the Storm right now. People are already queuing up and pre-ordering the Storm.  If Apple really can beat RIM in the next two quarters, then I would concede that Apple has a good chance of dominating the consumer market.  (RIM will still control the business market for the foreseeable future.)</p>
<p>On battery life, your iPhone usage is such that you can get by with charging it every day.  Some people use their mobile phones more than you use your iPhone.  With Blackberry&#8217;s, the battery life lasts significantly longer, and switching batteries takes just a few seconds.  Critical for mobile warriors.</p>
<p>in general:<br />
The casual consumer, tech minded people and business people buy Blackberrys.<br />
The casual consumer, tech minded people buy iPhones.  Business people generally do not buy iPhones.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 21:02:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All other Blackberry&#039;s are inferior to the iPhone 3G. I was referring to the Storm.

The iPhone (both EDGE &amp; 3G) has a more superior OS, media capabilities, and design. Sure a Blackberry that checks e-mail and plays Arkanoid/Brick is going to have better battery life, but people still choose the iPhone.

Don&#039;t believe me? Look at the last quarter&#039;s sales. Every single Blackberry model on all the different networks didn&#039;t outsell iPhone 3G. Hmm...

SIDENOTE: I have had very little issues with battery life on my iPhone. I just charge it every night.

Tech minded people and business people buy Blackberrys. The casual consumer, tech minded people, and business people buy iPhones.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All other Blackberry&#8217;s are inferior to the iPhone 3G. I was referring to the Storm.</p>
<p>The iPhone (both EDGE &amp; 3G) has a more superior OS, media capabilities, and design. Sure a Blackberry that checks e-mail and plays Arkanoid/Brick is going to have better battery life, but people still choose the iPhone.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t believe me? Look at the last quarter&#8217;s sales. Every single Blackberry model on all the different networks didn&#8217;t outsell iPhone 3G. Hmm&#8230;</p>
<p>SIDENOTE: I have had very little issues with battery life on my iPhone. I just charge it every night.</p>
<p>Tech minded people and business people buy Blackberrys. The casual consumer, tech minded people, and business people buy iPhones.</p>
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		<title>By: ubiquityman</title>
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		<dc:creator>ubiquityman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 18:09:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nick,

Here are more objective comparisons between Blackberry &amp; iPhone.  (Excludes Storm)

http://www.customsba.com/
http://www.avc.com/a_vc/2008/05/iphone-vs-black.html

(BTW, is there a &quot;how to&quot; on formatting comments and embedding URLs for BlogOhBlog?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nick,</p>
<p>Here are more objective comparisons between Blackberry &amp; iPhone.  (Excludes Storm)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.customsba.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.customsba.com/</a><br />
<a href="http://www.avc.com/a_vc/2008/05/iphone-vs-black.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.avc.com/a_vc/2008/05/iphone-vs-black.html</a></p>
<p>(BTW, is there a &#8220;how to&#8221; on formatting comments and embedding URLs for BlogOhBlog?)</p>
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		<title>By: ubiquityman</title>
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		<dc:creator>ubiquityman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 17:19:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On the 3rd point, I think you may have misunderstood my comment.  I&#039;m not saying that the iPhone is a toy in a bad sense, but a toy in a good sense.  It&#039;s something that brings the user _enjoyment_.  That&#039;s why people buy the iPhone.  That&#039;s why it&#039;s selling so well.  As addicting as the current Blackberry can be, it&#039;s much more work related and a different user experience.

Also, I believe that people who think the iPhone is going to make significant inroads into the corporate market only look at it from a consumer perspective and not a corporate perspective.

Even with the recent surge in iPhone sales, RIM&#039;s corporate market share continues to rise.  Apple is not taking RIM&#039;s market share significantly in this category.  It could happen, but I don&#039;t see a way for iPhones to break into this market significantly.  At best, there will be a slight erosion. This is due to the severe lack of security combined with the fact that locking down an iPhone defeats the _enjoyment_ aspect of it.

It&#039;s simple, if you have a job to do and need to communicate via email, and you have the choice of either an iPhone with video, music, apps, camera, all disabled, or a Blackberry with video, music, apps, camera, all disabled, which would you pick?  Anyone in their right mind would pick the blackberry.  Corporate users would pick the Blackberry.  The keyboard, plus push email, plus security, plus backend options, is a no-brainer.  

Yes, Apple could develop the same thing with keyboard and even Lotus Notes connections, but RIM can easily come out with a &quot;multimedia smart phone&quot; as they are doing now with the Storm. 

Personally, I highly doubt the Storm will make it&#039;s way into the corporate market. Corporations make corporate strategy decisions not based on how smart phones make people feel, but rather based on cost benefit for work.  They don&#039;t want employees to be &quot;distracted&quot; by their tools.

Over the last 10 years, I&#039;ve owned about 7 or so different PDAs.  3 of them have been Smartphones.  Every single smartphone that I&#039;ve owned, including the Blackberry has been a WORSE phone than the Samsung A900 I have because the samsung is much easier to operate with one hand, and has fabulous voice to text for messaging.  If all I needed to do was talk on the phone, I would definitely not have a smartphone.  However, I sacrificed a bit of the phone functionality to get combined email functionality without having to carry around a separate phone+PDA. It&#039;s a tradeoff.  If I didn&#039;t need email and calendaring, I would definitely be back to just using a regular old cell phone.

Again, two different markets, but Apple has a much steeper hill in the corporate market than RIM has in the consumer market.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the 3rd point, I think you may have misunderstood my comment.  I&#8217;m not saying that the iPhone is a toy in a bad sense, but a toy in a good sense.  It&#8217;s something that brings the user _enjoyment_.  That&#8217;s why people buy the iPhone.  That&#8217;s why it&#8217;s selling so well.  As addicting as the current Blackberry can be, it&#8217;s much more work related and a different user experience.</p>
<p>Also, I believe that people who think the iPhone is going to make significant inroads into the corporate market only look at it from a consumer perspective and not a corporate perspective.</p>
<p>Even with the recent surge in iPhone sales, RIM&#8217;s corporate market share continues to rise.  Apple is not taking RIM&#8217;s market share significantly in this category.  It could happen, but I don&#8217;t see a way for iPhones to break into this market significantly.  At best, there will be a slight erosion. This is due to the severe lack of security combined with the fact that locking down an iPhone defeats the _enjoyment_ aspect of it.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s simple, if you have a job to do and need to communicate via email, and you have the choice of either an iPhone with video, music, apps, camera, all disabled, or a Blackberry with video, music, apps, camera, all disabled, which would you pick?  Anyone in their right mind would pick the blackberry.  Corporate users would pick the Blackberry.  The keyboard, plus push email, plus security, plus backend options, is a no-brainer.  </p>
<p>Yes, Apple could develop the same thing with keyboard and even Lotus Notes connections, but RIM can easily come out with a &#8220;multimedia smart phone&#8221; as they are doing now with the Storm. </p>
<p>Personally, I highly doubt the Storm will make it&#8217;s way into the corporate market. Corporations make corporate strategy decisions not based on how smart phones make people feel, but rather based on cost benefit for work.  They don&#8217;t want employees to be &#8220;distracted&#8221; by their tools.</p>
<p>Over the last 10 years, I&#8217;ve owned about 7 or so different PDAs.  3 of them have been Smartphones.  Every single smartphone that I&#8217;ve owned, including the Blackberry has been a WORSE phone than the Samsung A900 I have because the samsung is much easier to operate with one hand, and has fabulous voice to text for messaging.  If all I needed to do was talk on the phone, I would definitely not have a smartphone.  However, I sacrificed a bit of the phone functionality to get combined email functionality without having to carry around a separate phone+PDA. It&#8217;s a tradeoff.  If I didn&#8217;t need email and calendaring, I would definitely be back to just using a regular old cell phone.</p>
<p>Again, two different markets, but Apple has a much steeper hill in the corporate market than RIM has in the consumer market.</p>
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		<title>By: Justin Flood</title>
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		<dc:creator>Justin Flood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 14:27:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Ubiquityman

I agree that Verizon&#039;s network is far superior to AT&amp;T,  but that&#039;s just the US.  Blackberry and Apple are both in global markets.  I&#039;m just saying on a global scale, the network itself matters less than the device.

I also agree that the click is something that the iPhone should adopt too, but considering the age of the Blackberry OS, I still think the iPhone will have the superior user experience.

I completely disagree with your third point.  The iPhone is clearly a well built and elegant device.  It has quite a number of the security features of the Blackberry, and will likely continue to build in more as the firmware gets more refined.  Remember that at one point the blackberry didn&#039;t have any of that either.  It gained it as it became more mature.  Also remember that 2 years ago, there was no such THING as an iPhone.  You have to give credit that Apple has made quite an impact in a very short period of time.

Your point that lotus notes doesn&#039;t have support on the iPhone, doesn&#039;t mean that it WONT.  In fact I&#039;d imagine that as the iPhone becomes more business oriented, you&#039;ll begin to see a lot of the productivity apps from the Blackberry platform being ported to the iPhone.  Again, it&#039;s just a matter of time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Ubiquityman</p>
<p>I agree that Verizon&#8217;s network is far superior to AT&#038;T,  but that&#8217;s just the US.  Blackberry and Apple are both in global markets.  I&#8217;m just saying on a global scale, the network itself matters less than the device.</p>
<p>I also agree that the click is something that the iPhone should adopt too, but considering the age of the Blackberry OS, I still think the iPhone will have the superior user experience.</p>
<p>I completely disagree with your third point.  The iPhone is clearly a well built and elegant device.  It has quite a number of the security features of the Blackberry, and will likely continue to build in more as the firmware gets more refined.  Remember that at one point the blackberry didn&#8217;t have any of that either.  It gained it as it became more mature.  Also remember that 2 years ago, there was no such THING as an iPhone.  You have to give credit that Apple has made quite an impact in a very short period of time.</p>
<p>Your point that lotus notes doesn&#8217;t have support on the iPhone, doesn&#8217;t mean that it WONT.  In fact I&#8217;d imagine that as the iPhone becomes more business oriented, you&#8217;ll begin to see a lot of the productivity apps from the Blackberry platform being ported to the iPhone.  Again, it&#8217;s just a matter of time.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 13:17:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Um... the Storm is cool for a BlackBerry, but doesn&#039;t come close to the iPhone. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2008/10/13/myth-10-rims-blackberry-will-contain-iphone-expansion/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Check this out.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Um&#8230; the Storm is cool for a BlackBerry, but doesn&#8217;t come close to the iPhone. <a href="http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2008/10/13/myth-10-rims-blackberry-will-contain-iphone-expansion/" rel="nofollow">Check this out.</a></p>
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		<title>By: ubiquityman</title>
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		<dc:creator>ubiquityman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 04:23:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1. Verizon&#039;s network is much better than AT&amp;T in coverage.

2. The touchscreen on the RIM Storm will make a big difference.  I&#039;m big on HIDs.  I&#039;ve purchased every other innovative or stupid HID device built, with a graveyard of them in the basement. When it comes to touch screens, the additional &quot;Z-axis&quot; click is going to be huge in what it can do.  Adding a 3rd degree of freedom opens up big options.  Dragging your hands across the screen doesn&#039;t have to &quot;select&quot; the data.  Imagine the difference between a mouse without any buttons but can only sense start and stop vs the same mouse with a single button.  Big difference in what you can do with a button!

3. The iPhone cannot and will not be used by much of corporate America.  I can understand that RIM has an uphill battle in the consumer market, but Apple will have twice the difficulty in the corporate market.  Many of the major companies I deal with now have switched to Lotus Notes for security reasons.  Besides the fact that iPhones look too juvenille for most executives, most corporate Blackberrys are locked down.  Can&#039;t download apps, can use SD slot, can&#039;t put music or videos on a Blackberry, can&#039;t do squat except email, talk, instant message, browse web and run corporate apps.  Why would anyone want to get an iPhone and lose the multimedia features?  The Blackberry is a communication tool.  The iPhone is a communication toy (in a good sense).  RIMs enterprise servers make all the difference in this arena.

4. Apps again are different categories.  BB apps are geared towards business.  iPhone apps towards life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1. Verizon&#8217;s network is much better than AT&amp;T in coverage.</p>
<p>2. The touchscreen on the RIM Storm will make a big difference.  I&#8217;m big on HIDs.  I&#8217;ve purchased every other innovative or stupid HID device built, with a graveyard of them in the basement. When it comes to touch screens, the additional &#8220;Z-axis&#8221; click is going to be huge in what it can do.  Adding a 3rd degree of freedom opens up big options.  Dragging your hands across the screen doesn&#8217;t have to &#8220;select&#8221; the data.  Imagine the difference between a mouse without any buttons but can only sense start and stop vs the same mouse with a single button.  Big difference in what you can do with a button!</p>
<p>3. The iPhone cannot and will not be used by much of corporate America.  I can understand that RIM has an uphill battle in the consumer market, but Apple will have twice the difficulty in the corporate market.  Many of the major companies I deal with now have switched to Lotus Notes for security reasons.  Besides the fact that iPhones look too juvenille for most executives, most corporate Blackberrys are locked down.  Can&#8217;t download apps, can use SD slot, can&#8217;t put music or videos on a Blackberry, can&#8217;t do squat except email, talk, instant message, browse web and run corporate apps.  Why would anyone want to get an iPhone and lose the multimedia features?  The Blackberry is a communication tool.  The iPhone is a communication toy (in a good sense).  RIMs enterprise servers make all the difference in this arena.</p>
<p>4. Apps again are different categories.  BB apps are geared towards business.  iPhone apps towards life.</p>
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